WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.540 --> 00:00:09.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: This is Sunday, January twenty-first, twenty-twenty-four, and we're together in 2 00:00:10.820 --> 00:00:11.969 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the hour. 3 00:00:12.120 --> 00:00:17.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Third session of lesson 4 of our God is breath. Course one. 4 00:00:20.210 --> 00:00:21.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So let's 5 00:00:22.350 --> 00:00:32.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: let's do a little bit of practice, and then move into some sharing and discussion and any questions. so 6 00:00:33.710 --> 00:00:37.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: settling into our bodies and settling into 7 00:00:38.140 --> 00:00:40.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: gentle awareness of our breathing. 8 00:00:48.650 --> 00:00:50.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: remembering that 9 00:00:52.570 --> 00:00:57.629 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the breath is the current that links all of the plightence of existence together. 10 00:01:07.700 --> 00:01:10.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: One of the deeper aspects of 11 00:01:13.660 --> 00:01:15.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: spiritual practice. 12 00:01:15.860 --> 00:01:18.519 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and especially the breath practices. 13 00:01:19.150 --> 00:01:25.630 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is to begin to identify more and more with our breaths itself, as who we are. 14 00:01:25.950 --> 00:01:29.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and all the other aspects of ourselves, as 15 00:01:29.420 --> 00:01:31.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: vehicles, as 16 00:01:32.530 --> 00:01:34.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: skills, as tools, as 17 00:01:35.170 --> 00:01:39.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: instrumentalities that are a dust, but that we use them, we express through them. 18 00:01:46.070 --> 00:01:47.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feeling that 19 00:01:47.910 --> 00:01:56.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: movement of the inhalations and the exhalations. and that small still pause 20 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:01.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in between at the top of the inhalation and the bottom of the exhalation. 21 00:02:26.370 --> 00:02:31.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and using the words of the Sufian vocation. Let's link to 22 00:02:31.970 --> 00:02:33.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the more expanded 23 00:02:36.270 --> 00:02:39.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or complete and perfect aspects of our 24 00:02:40.090 --> 00:02:41.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: human embodiment. 25 00:02:42.040 --> 00:02:43.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 26 00:02:44.580 --> 00:02:46.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the larger sphere 27 00:02:50.930 --> 00:02:54.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: they were seeking to become more familiar with. 28 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to wore the one. 29 00:03:01.150 --> 00:03:03.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the perfection, love. 30 00:03:03.980 --> 00:03:05.120 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: harmony. 31 00:03:05.300 --> 00:03:06.459 and beauty. 32 00:03:06.810 --> 00:03:09.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the only being 33 00:03:09.930 --> 00:03:14.079 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: united with all your illuminated soul. 34 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:22.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: who form the embodiment of the message and the messengers the spirit 35 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:24.040 guidance! 36 00:03:30.700 --> 00:03:38.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Taking those words in the swing of the red, inhale the first half of the phrase, exhale the second half for a few breaths. 37 00:04:38.490 --> 00:04:41.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and in this breath current 38 00:04:42.080 --> 00:04:45.120 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in our interaction with it. 39 00:04:45.990 --> 00:04:50.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the feeling of our heart center, the feeling of our embodiment as 40 00:04:50.820 --> 00:04:52.949 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: individuated human being. 41 00:04:53.370 --> 00:05:01.349 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's expand out in the co-created heart space that we've been engaging with over the past year. 42 00:05:01.850 --> 00:05:05.309 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: including of the members of our circle 43 00:05:05.770 --> 00:05:09.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: together in this shared breath, this shared heart. 44 00:05:30.050 --> 00:05:32.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and expanding again 45 00:05:37.170 --> 00:05:40.009 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to all those practitioners 46 00:05:41.940 --> 00:05:48.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: who were walking a similar path towards awakening whatever it may look like on the surface 47 00:05:50.960 --> 00:05:54.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: very similar to our own efforts in the depths. 48 00:05:56.830 --> 00:05:59.949 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: This huge caravan sold 49 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this journey through experience. 50 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: gaining wisdom, gaining insight 51 00:06:12.700 --> 00:06:13.980 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: for its awakening. 52 00:06:40.710 --> 00:06:41.590 and 53 00:06:43.690 --> 00:06:50.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: endeavoring to hold awareness of our own embodiment within this larger container. 54 00:06:50.390 --> 00:06:52.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this larger sphere. 55 00:06:53.970 --> 00:06:58.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feeling that permeate our bodies, our personalities. 56 00:06:58.630 --> 00:07:00.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: our individuality. 57 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:15.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So wow. we have an awareness of being 58 00:07:17.060 --> 00:07:18.699 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: a separate human being. 59 00:07:21.490 --> 00:07:27.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so to speak, that came out of the ocean. Then ultimately we were back into the ocean abyss. 60 00:07:28.310 --> 00:07:31.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There is also the entire ocean inside the drop. 61 00:07:36.750 --> 00:07:40.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: All of that vastness is inside us. 62 00:07:42.060 --> 00:07:44.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: at the same time that 63 00:07:44.830 --> 00:07:46.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we have human embodiment 64 00:08:18.420 --> 00:08:24.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: moving in to a little bit of breathing of ya-HUD and yah summer 65 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:30.800 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: being that dot unity out of which everything came. 66 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Samadh. 67 00:08:33.210 --> 00:08:39.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the infinite circumference of the circle that came out of that thought. 68 00:08:40.610 --> 00:08:44.949 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breathing him young. Or the one 69 00:08:46.670 --> 00:08:49.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breathing out Yasmin 70 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:51.810 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: ever becoming one. 71 00:08:52.280 --> 00:08:54.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: united with all 72 00:09:55.000 --> 00:10:01.629 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in spending a short amount of time just as long as is comfortable 73 00:10:02.150 --> 00:10:07.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the 2 still points, the 2 camal points in the breath cycle. 74 00:10:08.680 --> 00:10:13.820 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the top of Yah Ahad, feeling that oneness in the stillness 75 00:10:21.830 --> 00:10:26.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and in the exhalation. Yah! Some are letting go 76 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:31.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: all that we believe we are. 77 00:10:33.290 --> 00:10:39.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I didn't go into that larger container. Yah! Summoned. 78 00:10:39.660 --> 00:10:42.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Spend little time at the end of the exhalation. 79 00:10:43.750 --> 00:10:44.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: 4. 80 00:10:45.400 --> 00:10:49.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We inhale, reconfiguring who we are 81 00:10:49.310 --> 00:10:53.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in this moment heading towards that wellness again, inside 82 00:12:51.400 --> 00:12:53.519 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and within this space. 83 00:13:01.260 --> 00:13:05.990 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: let's do a short concentration and contemplation 84 00:13:07.810 --> 00:13:10.750 illuminated soul we feel 85 00:13:11.890 --> 00:13:16.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: drawn to, or that occurs to us that arises from our bed. 86 00:13:18.250 --> 00:13:19.679 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Maybe it's 87 00:13:19.850 --> 00:13:26.479 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I can't. Maybe it's Jesus, mother, Mary. 88 00:13:26.830 --> 00:13:29.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I should say, I am Kanye. 89 00:13:30.810 --> 00:13:32.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: collie 90 00:13:35.650 --> 00:13:36.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Krishna. 91 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:45.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Moses, Abraham. whoever might arise 92 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.369 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breathing with their heart stream 93 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:04.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in our personalities they seem like different beings, separate beings from us. 94 00:14:07.990 --> 00:14:12.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But in this larger master space of our inner being 95 00:14:13.950 --> 00:14:18.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: they're aspects of who we are who we can become 96 00:15:00.390 --> 00:15:03.139 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this part of the contemplation. 97 00:15:04.640 --> 00:15:05.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: considering. 98 00:15:07.010 --> 00:15:11.039 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: imagining that if we were able to stay in touch with this 99 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:15.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: space as we moved around everyday life. 100 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:23.919 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: how would that feel being immersed in this larger, beingless as well as 101 00:15:24.410 --> 00:15:26.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: our own individuality 102 00:15:27.520 --> 00:15:29.449 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: could we hear through this 103 00:15:30.110 --> 00:15:32.229 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: he illuminated Saul's ears. 104 00:15:32.690 --> 00:15:34.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: see through their eyes. 105 00:15:36.590 --> 00:15:39.150 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feel through their feelings. 106 00:17:13.130 --> 00:17:17.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: gradually returning our awareness to our human body. 107 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:22.420 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: knowing that 108 00:17:23.500 --> 00:17:27.839 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: these larger dimensions of our own being, our own self. 109 00:17:29.470 --> 00:17:32.529 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: are just a series of calm breaths 110 00:17:32.830 --> 00:17:33.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: away. 111 00:17:39.290 --> 00:17:45.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but by raising the pitch of the heart as we're learning to do, we can step up into peace 112 00:17:45.610 --> 00:17:48.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: larger states of consciousness 113 00:17:49.010 --> 00:17:50.749 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because they're always there. 114 00:17:55.600 --> 00:17:58.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We're not feeling. And we're focused somewhere else. 115 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:02.120 man 116 00:19:29.520 --> 00:19:31.620 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: right at the end I 117 00:19:34.250 --> 00:19:36.069 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: remembered or thought of 118 00:19:36.080 --> 00:19:38.239 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: snippets from 2 poems. 119 00:19:38.390 --> 00:19:41.489 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think the first is from Wordsworth 120 00:19:43.130 --> 00:19:46.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that the soul comes in. You're not hearing. 121 00:19:46.620 --> 00:19:50.529 Rissa Ratcliffe: that's I don't know if it's just me. It's very quiet. 122 00:19:51.210 --> 00:19:55.009 Rissa Ratcliffe: is it? Just me? I was II was talking fairly quietly. 123 00:19:57.450 --> 00:20:03.199 Rissa Ratcliffe: Let me turn my volume up. I'm almost all the way up. Okay. 124 00:20:03.840 --> 00:20:06.809 Rissa Ratcliffe: how to use my headphones. But I haven't learned that yet. 125 00:20:07.270 --> 00:20:08.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Right? Okay. 126 00:20:08.950 --> 00:20:14.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the soul comes into. 127 00:20:15.350 --> 00:20:24.499 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm paraphrasing now comes into the body. That's the poem is about the souls coming to earth. and the phrase it came right there at the end was. 128 00:20:24.940 --> 00:20:29.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's from the poem we come in trailing clouds of glory. 129 00:20:31.800 --> 00:20:34.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So, coming from this vast 130 00:20:34.340 --> 00:20:42.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: place into that smaller space of the human body, and we're pulling them with us as we come in. 131 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:48.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I don't think they disappear. I just think we forget 132 00:20:48.800 --> 00:20:50.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that they came in with us. 133 00:20:53.000 --> 00:21:00.289 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the other is from a poem by Edna St. Vincent Millay, and it was a favorite called Merchant Sam's. 134 00:21:00.340 --> 00:21:04.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I heard both Wally Ali and Waiterdey repeated a number of times. 135 00:21:05.170 --> 00:21:08.800 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it's again just a line from the longer poem. 136 00:21:09.530 --> 00:21:16.939 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The world stands out on either side, no wider. then the heart is wide. 137 00:21:18.830 --> 00:21:23.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the world stands out on either side no wider than the heart is wide. 138 00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:37.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Ananayat Khan comes back to that particular perspective a number of times in his writings. 139 00:21:37.800 --> 00:21:39.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: talking about 140 00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:43.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: expanding the horizons. 141 00:21:44.620 --> 00:21:45.810 Our awareness 142 00:21:49.230 --> 00:21:51.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that the whole process, 143 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:56.620 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: spiritual development, is a process of expanding our horizons. 144 00:21:57.430 --> 00:22:05.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and one metaphor that he uses in one of the places is that if you're standing at sea level. 145 00:22:06.040 --> 00:22:11.519 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the horizons of your sight are greatly limited by what's around us. 146 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:19.449 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that if there are lots of buildings or lots of trees. Our horizon is fairly close. 147 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I said, but if you start hiking up a mountain 148 00:22:23.750 --> 00:22:30.809 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and getting your elevation higher and higher away from the buildings and away from the trees the horizon expands. 149 00:22:31.370 --> 00:22:34.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we could see farther and farther. 150 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:40.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I think the same thing happens as we do that attunement, raising the pitch of the heart. 151 00:22:40.840 --> 00:22:45.479 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: moving up into our faster, grander, greater being. 152 00:22:46.520 --> 00:22:51.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we're able to perceive more here, feel, see. 153 00:22:53.830 --> 00:22:56.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: taste! Maybe I don't know but just 154 00:22:57.300 --> 00:23:03.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The vastness that's inside all of the small little things 155 00:23:04.050 --> 00:23:05.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: really touches me. 156 00:23:09.820 --> 00:23:15.839 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So any observations or anything folks would like to share about 157 00:23:16.130 --> 00:23:20.009 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the practice session and then moving into whatever else we want to talk about. 158 00:23:31.390 --> 00:23:33.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: first Subana and then Vadon. 159 00:23:34.860 --> 00:23:36.549 Subhana: I noticed that 160 00:23:36.650 --> 00:23:39.550 Subhana: pain in my body. 161 00:23:40.360 --> 00:23:45.700 Subhana: keeps pulling me back. and I wonder if there are 162 00:23:47.570 --> 00:23:53.319 Subhana: ways to to to bring the breath fully into your body without kind of 163 00:23:53.450 --> 00:23:55.030 Subhana: tightening around it. 164 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.740 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's a challenging one, because 165 00:24:07.870 --> 00:24:09.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the pain can be so intense. 166 00:24:11.060 --> 00:24:13.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I know I've had 167 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:16.449 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: some small success 168 00:24:17.330 --> 00:24:21.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: by focusing on the place that hurts 169 00:24:21.540 --> 00:24:29.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and breathing into that space, drawing the prana into whether it's a tight muscle or a sore joint. 170 00:24:31.870 --> 00:24:36.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then on the exhale just completely relaxing, and let it all expand. 171 00:24:38.840 --> 00:24:43.519 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then doing a number of times, drawing that breath energy into it. 172 00:24:43.610 --> 00:24:45.229 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: holding it lovingly. 173 00:24:45.460 --> 00:24:48.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then the relaxation and 174 00:24:49.080 --> 00:24:52.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the ones that I've done it with have been actually tight muscles. 175 00:24:52.790 --> 00:24:57.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and if it's something going on with joints or whatnot, just the relaxation may not 176 00:24:58.170 --> 00:25:02.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: do anything physically, but it might help the sensation 177 00:25:02.410 --> 00:25:03.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if that makes sense. 178 00:25:20.280 --> 00:25:21.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and for that 179 00:25:24.540 --> 00:25:43.150 vadan’s iPhone (2): so you know, this this time of year, II do a lot of work around intention and you know, even though we have our kind of Western cultural New Year January first. 180 00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:46.390 vadan’s iPhone (2): there's a lot of there's a lot of cultures. 181 00:25:46.490 --> 00:25:53.890 vadan’s iPhone (2): I mean. I guess I'm influenced from the pagan tradition. But there's a lot of other cultures that that kind of do it a little bit later. 182 00:25:54.030 --> 00:26:01.390 vadan’s iPhone (2): But anyway, so one of the but the reason I'm mentioning this is that I 183 00:26:01.510 --> 00:26:06.230 vadan’s iPhone (2): I was diving into some of Wally Ali's archives 184 00:26:06.280 --> 00:26:08.630 vadan’s iPhone (2): and just his 185 00:26:10.660 --> 00:26:19.869 vadan’s iPhone (2): You know his, his physicians of the heart classes on the 3 different aspects of 186 00:26:20.300 --> 00:26:27.329 vadan’s iPhone (2): you know, envisioning and co-creating the the like. The the Wazifa's colleague, Body and Mousavir. 187 00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:39.139 vadan’s iPhone (2): and I think the thing that that really struck me that I hadn't really heard before. I think it's cause I was just working, you know, on manifestation in this particular season. But 188 00:26:40.310 --> 00:27:00.180 vadan’s iPhone (2): it's kind of, I think. I think he actually took us on a meditation where we imag we imagined that we're that we're like the in the mind of God, imagining the possibilities imagining. And I think, like there's a beautiful quote from from that class, you know, imagine that the 189 00:27:00.380 --> 00:27:06.970 vadan’s iPhone (2): uncreated boundlessness of infinity is the mind of God free from all impressions. 190 00:27:08.990 --> 00:27:13.220 vadan’s iPhone (2): But anyway, this is this is just an important part of my 191 00:27:13.540 --> 00:27:18.590 vadan’s iPhone (2): spiritual practice and you know, and I find great 192 00:27:18.660 --> 00:27:34.169 vadan’s iPhone (2): support just from these from these Sufi teachings. And and just this. you know, I think we get into this very limited idea of like New Year's intentions. And it's to me this process of really 193 00:27:34.670 --> 00:27:39.450 vadan’s iPhone (2): being in a space of imagining the possibilities. Seems like. 194 00:27:39.580 --> 00:27:52.300 vadan’s iPhone (2): what's what's I mean? Obvious. It's important to, you know, manifest it and give it form. But but just that process of kind of dreaming and envisioning is also really important. So 195 00:27:52.740 --> 00:27:53.530 vadan’s iPhone (2): yeah. 196 00:27:55.190 --> 00:27:57.839 vadan’s iPhone (2): thank you. 197 00:28:27.370 --> 00:28:28.790 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yes. Please. Leslie. 198 00:28:29.310 --> 00:28:32.209 Leslie: really enjoyed the practice today, I feel like. 199 00:28:32.410 --> 00:28:36.500 Leslie: when there's some quality in your voice, that's very soothing. 200 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:45.169 Leslie: We all enter this space together, it somehow wider than when I do it 201 00:28:46.760 --> 00:28:47.890 Leslie: really lovely. 202 00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:53.720 Leslie: And I love the reminder that we're just a few breaths away from that expanded 203 00:28:54.910 --> 00:28:57.689 yeah work with that one. 204 00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:59.370 Leslie: And then 205 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:01.290 Leslie: the implication I wanted to ask 206 00:29:01.570 --> 00:29:04.190 Leslie: united with all 207 00:29:06.950 --> 00:29:08.790 Leslie: I've put. I'm putting 208 00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:10.280 Leslie: toward the ones 209 00:29:12.970 --> 00:29:14.000 Leslie: united with. 210 00:29:15.690 --> 00:29:20.290 Leslie: oh, instead of messenger and message, I'm putting enlightened awareness. 211 00:29:20.890 --> 00:29:27.379 Leslie: Because I find message and messenger are both very conceptual. That's okay. Cool. Thank you. 212 00:29:28.130 --> 00:29:28.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. 213 00:29:29.100 --> 00:29:29.850 yeah. 214 00:29:32.900 --> 00:29:40.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I know a number of times I've spent a long time with that deciding 215 00:29:40.630 --> 00:29:42.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feeling into 216 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:46.799 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: other manifestations of the spirit of guidance that occur to me. 217 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:53.690 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the list gets longer and longer and longer. The longer I stay in that space. 218 00:29:53.850 --> 00:29:57.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: How does the spirit of guidance manifest? How is it 219 00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:02.069 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I was interacting all the various ways. 220 00:30:04.100 --> 00:30:05.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 221 00:30:06.270 --> 00:30:18.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, we've got to have one or a handful of generally understood ways to be able to say something in unison. But there's a universe of possibilities to experiment with 222 00:30:18.540 --> 00:30:20.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: individually. 223 00:30:20.510 --> 00:30:33.499 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and one of the the One of the versions that that Rishina Mario was the master. 224 00:30:33.780 --> 00:30:40.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the message. the mystery, the miracle, the mother? 225 00:30:41.020 --> 00:30:47.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So II think it's a place that 226 00:30:49.580 --> 00:31:03.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There's some rich investigation to unfold and unpack of what that may be. and definitely the the thrust of this course with a focus on 227 00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:09.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the illuminated souls as something to begin working with. 228 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:16.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we've got to begin to do some experimentation and and and 229 00:31:17.390 --> 00:31:20.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: contemplation of who are they? 230 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Who's in that capital? 231 00:31:25.140 --> 00:31:26.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 232 00:31:27.870 --> 00:31:28.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think 233 00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:33.529 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: well, definitely the the the the list of 234 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:40.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: those that we are or may be drawn to is going to be different for all of us, because 235 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: different attunements and and different days and different periods of our lives. 236 00:31:46.120 --> 00:31:54.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But I keep coming back to emphasizing this for myself, because a part of me keeps forgetting it. 237 00:31:55.020 --> 00:31:59.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The illuminated souls are us. They're not 238 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: completely separate beings. 239 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: They're they're dimensions of our larger consciousness. 240 00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:20.709 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And if they did have human embodiment. their process of awakening. their heartstream is still available, even though they're no longer in Dubai. 241 00:32:21.600 --> 00:32:30.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The heartstream is a stream in the ocean of our larger being that we can tune into for that particular set of qualities. 242 00:32:32.210 --> 00:32:44.150 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: please, and 243 00:32:45.790 --> 00:32:59.279 Andy Cheffings: what's I noticed is something that I sometimes notice in spiritual practices, and that is that for me. This seems to be sort of a feeling of yearning contained within them. 244 00:32:59.350 --> 00:33:06.890 Andy Cheffings: Which is bit hard to express, really, but I think sometimes relates to 245 00:33:07.010 --> 00:33:19.660 Andy Cheffings: some sort of spiritual path which I sort of want beyond, but feel I'm not really quite on it, and sort of feeling a bit sort of separate from it. 246 00:33:19.840 --> 00:33:31.420 Andy Cheffings: but I felt that the the quotes you gave at the end of that the training clouds of glory and the world stands out on either side no wiser than the heart is wide kind of give business sort of 247 00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:34.359 Andy Cheffings: but some some sort of feeling of 248 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:59.050 Andy Cheffings: well, you know, if I widen my heart that it could contain this sort of the the the path which I don't feel I'm quite attaining until you know, uncomfortable. That's the feeling of yearning sort of wanting, wanting to be on particular path, a particular direction. It just doesn't seem quite available. But well, you know, that's quite a really good analogy. And also you'll talk about going up the mountain and 249 00:33:59.110 --> 00:34:06.160 Andy Cheffings: and horizon widening out. So. Oh, yes, that's really yeah. That's very reassuring. Yeah. 250 00:34:06.490 --> 00:34:08.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: thank you. Thank you. 251 00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:15.610 Here 252 00:34:16.929 --> 00:34:20.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one of the fairly common 253 00:34:23.139 --> 00:34:28.949 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: poetic, and scholarly or mystical metaphysical 254 00:34:30.139 --> 00:34:34.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: ways of of describing what this yearning is. 255 00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:44.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: One of the the the synonyms, for it is the divine discontent that the soul feels 256 00:34:44.690 --> 00:34:47.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: when it's experiencing its separateness 257 00:34:47.969 --> 00:34:49.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from his source. 258 00:34:52.520 --> 00:34:55.690 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And Madelana Rumi 259 00:34:56.250 --> 00:34:59.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: mentions it with a different metaphor. 260 00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:03.329 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: He opens the the Mas Navi, that long mystical 261 00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:07.820 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: poem, and stories and teachings and whatnot that that he wrote 262 00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:11.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: talking about the 263 00:35:12.460 --> 00:35:19.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the the flute called the Ne. Is made out of a reed 264 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:30.109 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that is hollow, that is dried, and holes are put in. and Italian listened to the sound of the reed separated from its reed bed. 265 00:35:31.750 --> 00:35:44.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: crying its its lament to be reunited with this home. I'm I'm really doing an extreme paraphrasing here. but that's that's the feeling of it 266 00:35:44.250 --> 00:35:49.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that when we come into in incarnation 267 00:35:50.490 --> 00:35:52.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we forget 268 00:35:53.990 --> 00:35:55.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: our connection. 269 00:35:56.660 --> 00:35:59.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We're not physically separated. 270 00:35:59.750 --> 00:36:06.629 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There's just a veil that has dropped over our awareness. So we're not intimately 271 00:36:07.820 --> 00:36:11.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: interacting with that larger awareness. 272 00:36:12.010 --> 00:36:19.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But it's it's still there. And so the spiritual practice from that aspect is just figuring out how to 273 00:36:20.340 --> 00:36:25.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: lift the veil or tune to a different channel. 274 00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:28.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: To use a TV metaphor 275 00:36:29.050 --> 00:36:37.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: where the broadcast is going on. We just didn't have the breast receptivity to be able to participate in 276 00:36:38.210 --> 00:36:46.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: within Inayat Khan's teachings about the God ideal that we project 277 00:36:46.970 --> 00:36:58.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: something out of ourselves that's more perfect than what we're experiencing. and then we work towards approaching it and drawing it closer to us. The yearning is, what does that? 278 00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And if we didn't have any earning at all. We just 279 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:13.620 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: fall down into whatever the situation was, and stay there. and sometimes some of us may get depressed enough 280 00:37:14.230 --> 00:37:15.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to be that dismayed. 281 00:37:17.740 --> 00:37:23.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and and most of us. after a little bit of time, in that completely 282 00:37:24.250 --> 00:37:32.009 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: deep pit of of despair and nothingness, the yearning starts again, and we were able to get up against gravity and 283 00:37:32.180 --> 00:37:33.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: try again. 284 00:37:35.540 --> 00:37:36.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But it's 285 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's got. 286 00:37:43.170 --> 00:37:46.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: How do I say this? How do I articulate it? 287 00:37:50.060 --> 00:37:53.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: ultimately it's our heart stream 288 00:37:55.020 --> 00:37:59.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that comes from the depth of our being. and it arises 289 00:38:01.130 --> 00:38:03.679 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as motivation. 290 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:06.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: meaning, movement. 291 00:38:06.670 --> 00:38:19.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and there are echoes of it in the emotional body that aren't nearly as as clear and pristine and and powerful, and then our ego gets involved with it and 292 00:38:20.090 --> 00:38:32.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it becomes obsessions, and it becomes infatuations, and it becomes grasping, and it becomes avoiding all of those things. But that's all going in the the limited 293 00:38:32.510 --> 00:38:36.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: limited ego, the little limited emotional body. 294 00:38:36.470 --> 00:38:45.719 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the practice is trying to get us to disengage from that, to get back into the the heart stream without any 295 00:38:47.950 --> 00:38:51.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: any interference or distortion 296 00:38:52.100 --> 00:38:59.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that really is external, so we can get to participate in that movement, and that movement is the movement that created the universe itself. 297 00:39:00.660 --> 00:39:15.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That grand story says that it was a mystery that was completely featureless. There was no sound, there was no movement, there was no no, there was nothing that we could understand. And somehow, in that vast mystery. 298 00:39:17.700 --> 00:39:25.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: A sound happened. or a movement happened that then led to everything else. 299 00:39:25.600 --> 00:39:35.709 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And we've got that inside us, and that's the motivating force that rises in another place. The niacin says, every impulse that arises is sacred 300 00:39:36.770 --> 00:39:40.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because it it ultimately arises from the depth of our being. 301 00:39:41.640 --> 00:39:50.499 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and as it gets up to the eagle level, we can kind of move it around and change it, but in its essence every impulse is divine. 302 00:39:50.890 --> 00:39:53.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because who else is there? 303 00:39:54.830 --> 00:39:59.200 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There's nobody here that primal. 304 00:39:59.510 --> 00:40:02.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: fundamental, absolute oneness, awareness. 305 00:40:05.630 --> 00:40:08.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: pretending to be individuated beings. 306 00:40:12.300 --> 00:40:18.800 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we as actors in this grander play. forget that we're acting in a play. 307 00:40:19.870 --> 00:40:24.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we take our character as very real and very important. 308 00:40:26.070 --> 00:40:32.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and, you know, within a smaller scale it is but again expand horizon. 309 00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:39.749 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And what was really intense and really important doesn't feel so offensive, doesn't feel so important anymore. 310 00:40:40.110 --> 00:40:42.169 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Because we've got the larger perspective. 311 00:40:44.600 --> 00:40:54.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And that's one way to look at a contemplation on the illuminated souls. We're stepping up into a different perspective. That's got a much broader horizon. 312 00:40:57.720 --> 00:40:59.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And how would 313 00:41:00.930 --> 00:41:01.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that 314 00:41:01.980 --> 00:41:06.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: art stream have interacted with that situation? 315 00:41:08.700 --> 00:41:09.870 Math? 316 00:41:10.570 --> 00:41:11.740 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Thank you. 317 00:41:12.590 --> 00:41:13.790 Andy Cheffings: Thank you. 318 00:41:14.610 --> 00:41:15.720 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: You're very welcome. 319 00:41:20.220 --> 00:41:21.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: please, Rosa. 320 00:41:25.780 --> 00:41:28.310 Rissa Ratcliffe: The it's 321 00:41:28.750 --> 00:41:31.710 Rissa Ratcliffe: making me definitely 322 00:41:32.140 --> 00:41:39.570 Rissa Ratcliffe: remember looking at things from new perspectives. That idea of being in a horizon where you can't see what's 323 00:41:39.850 --> 00:41:42.859 Rissa Ratcliffe: ahead of you, or you know, and you can't see the 324 00:41:43.140 --> 00:41:49.939 Rissa Ratcliffe: long distance and and that's just making. It's quite comforting to 325 00:41:50.020 --> 00:42:01.830 Rissa Ratcliffe: see that. That's just it's just from where you're standing, you know. If you were to get stand somewhere else you'd you'd see you'd see it differently. And II really interested in playing with 326 00:42:01.860 --> 00:42:03.390 Rissa Ratcliffe: new perspectives. 327 00:42:03.930 --> 00:42:06.090 and it sort of links in with. 328 00:42:06.500 --> 00:42:21.749 Rissa Ratcliffe: and an artist that I've recently found. And I really love who plays with with the scale. So there are tiny Weenie, little people, and enormous beautiful pets and animal companions. 329 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:26.840 Rissa Ratcliffe: And so it's just really interesting. You know that you you might not. 330 00:42:26.850 --> 00:42:35.720 Rissa Ratcliffe: You might not have your vision impaired for the for the long distance by something unpleasant. It could be familiar and lovely 331 00:42:35.740 --> 00:42:39.940 Rissa Ratcliffe: thing. That's really close. And that's what you need. Then. 332 00:42:40.250 --> 00:42:45.230 Rissa Ratcliffe: So yeah, just sort of tied in with some things that have been 333 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:50.779 Rissa Ratcliffe: in my mind recently. How lovely! Thank you. 334 00:42:54.380 --> 00:42:55.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Please watch me. 335 00:42:56.660 --> 00:43:01.760 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: I think what this is reminding me of a practice that 336 00:43:01.950 --> 00:43:07.079 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: solidine created for Kilva called micro Macro. 337 00:43:07.230 --> 00:43:20.460 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: And what you do is you go out in nature, which is the best place to do this, and you start by just looking, maybe at you know, a Bud, that's on a branch 338 00:43:21.390 --> 00:43:23.949 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: that's going to come out next spring. 339 00:43:23.980 --> 00:43:33.790 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: and then but then you start moving beyond the bud to see more of a macro picture. So maybe you look at the whole branch. 340 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:46.309 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: and then maybe you look at how the branch interacts with the other branches, and maybe you look at the whole bush or tree. and then, you know, for me it's about looking at the sky 341 00:43:46.420 --> 00:43:54.750 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: and the forest around me, and and it's I think it's a great way to to really be present in the moment. 342 00:43:55.450 --> 00:44:12.060 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: but also because we can get so easily caught up in the details of our lives and the details of the things we read in the news, and that are depressing, and everything that there's always a bigger picture. And if we can practice 343 00:44:13.590 --> 00:44:14.940 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: seeing 344 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:20.260 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: the small for what it is. And then the bigger move to the bigger 345 00:44:20.270 --> 00:44:25.619 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: I find that really comforting, especially in these really challenging times. 346 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:26.760 Yeah. 347 00:44:31.740 --> 00:44:32.790 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: thank you. 348 00:44:38.330 --> 00:44:51.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and one of the things on a practical level that we can do with our breath in those types of situations is link the energy of our breath with what it is we're looking at. 349 00:44:56.210 --> 00:45:01.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And in one of if was it Lesson 2. If you watch 350 00:45:02.940 --> 00:45:06.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: both of the compilation videos, I think that's where they are. 351 00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:12.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Wally Ali led this little thing of linking the breath with different things. 352 00:45:13.540 --> 00:45:15.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he said, Okay, now 353 00:45:17.180 --> 00:45:18.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: imagine. 354 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:23.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feel into a tree and link your breath with one tree. 355 00:45:24.560 --> 00:45:27.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breathe with it, see it. 356 00:45:27.900 --> 00:45:29.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feel it 357 00:45:29.250 --> 00:45:35.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: really kind of anterate. And we're using creative imagination here, which is divine. 358 00:45:37.340 --> 00:45:43.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: He says, Okay. now lick your breath with a group of trees 359 00:45:45.910 --> 00:45:49.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the same sort of process for the groupings. Now all trees. 360 00:45:51.670 --> 00:45:55.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he did it with 4 or 5 things in that segment of the video. 361 00:45:55.330 --> 00:46:12.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: just to begin to demonstrate this process, that if we and and it's going back to the toward the one breathing that we get the rhythmic breathing going. and we bring the prana in to charge the breath. So there's something there, and then lick it with our love. 362 00:46:12.970 --> 00:46:18.720 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: then, in directing it in heartful concentration towards something we're building 363 00:46:19.030 --> 00:46:26.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: sympathetic, epithetic link between us and that. So it becomes more than just some object that we're separated from 364 00:46:27.170 --> 00:46:36.229 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it becomes this living experience in exactly the way solidine was having the micro macro. you know. 365 00:46:36.890 --> 00:46:45.349 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and in linking the breath with it, it takes it out of the mind only. So it's not just a mental imagination. 366 00:46:45.570 --> 00:46:46.420 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's 367 00:46:47.380 --> 00:46:56.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: maybe a whole body experience, but definitely a deep heart and breath experience. And then we can do the same sort of thing with one of the illuminated souls. 368 00:46:56.950 --> 00:47:02.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I don't know whether that's been clear, but I want to make that really, really explicit explicit 369 00:47:03.080 --> 00:47:06.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that that's one of the ways to enter into 370 00:47:07.580 --> 00:47:12.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: deeper communion with whatever it is we're focusing on 371 00:47:16.080 --> 00:47:17.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: could be a Tarot card 372 00:47:22.930 --> 00:47:24.749 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: could be a child 373 00:47:25.990 --> 00:47:31.150 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: could be a situation. What happens when you you engage all of that with it 374 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:33.720 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is that 375 00:47:34.950 --> 00:47:39.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: you begin to get flows of impressions from what you're concentrating on. 376 00:47:41.030 --> 00:47:54.369 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: you're moving into a space where we can perceive beyond the surface aspects the physical aspects of it. And there's the beginning of the 377 00:47:56.430 --> 00:48:02.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: merging may be too strong a word, but interactive intercommunication 378 00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:06.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: with the essence of what it is we're concentrating on. 379 00:48:08.140 --> 00:48:09.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Does that make sense? 380 00:48:16.170 --> 00:48:21.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There's a couple of fate nods. 381 00:48:21.310 --> 00:48:29.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But this is one way, this one way, working with symbols to get more information out of the symbol we're meditating on concentrating on 382 00:48:29.470 --> 00:48:35.899 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the the charging of the breath, the licking it with the love stream in the heart. 383 00:48:36.670 --> 00:48:43.029 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then linking that charge of loving breath with whatever it is we're going to meditate on 384 00:48:43.850 --> 00:48:45.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: brings them. 385 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:52.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Excuse me, brings a multi-dimensionality to the process. So it just just doesn't stay in the mind. 386 00:48:52.870 --> 00:48:55.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I guess that's really all that I'm trying to underline here. 387 00:48:59.830 --> 00:49:01.490 vadan’s iPhone (2): Right? 388 00:49:02.930 --> 00:49:07.760 vadan’s iPhone (2): What you know, there's there's actually 389 00:49:07.950 --> 00:49:16.619 vadan’s iPhone (2): a scientific phenomenon that happens to the brain when we look at panoramic vistas. 390 00:49:17.500 --> 00:49:21.860 vadan’s iPhone (2): And, for example, one of my friends who I live with is a therapist. 391 00:49:22.140 --> 00:49:31.450 vadan’s iPhone (2): and I just II always want to know what the word for that is, or what the term that is. But it's also 392 00:49:32.390 --> 00:49:42.690 vadan’s iPhone (2): zochan practice, which is like one of the sort of non dual Tibetan practices. They have. You meditate with your eyes open. 393 00:49:42.780 --> 00:49:44.400 vadan’s iPhone (2): and you just. 394 00:49:44.420 --> 00:49:51.750 vadan’s iPhone (2): you know, and and ideal like. It's ideal to have a panorama in front of you when you're doing that, and 395 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.330 vadan’s iPhone (2): they just instruct you to relax 396 00:49:54.870 --> 00:49:56.990 vadan’s iPhone (2): and to like, do less. 397 00:49:57.260 --> 00:50:02.010 vadan’s iPhone (2): But but yeah, anyway, II really orient towards that as well, I have. 398 00:50:02.170 --> 00:50:20.589 vadan’s iPhone (2): I have a place that I can drive to in about 10 min from my house, and I tried to go up there at least 3 or 4 times a week, and it has this like panorama over over the San Francisco Bay. And it's it's a I think. I think it works. I think it really helps. But yeah, it's powerful. 399 00:50:20.690 --> 00:50:21.710 vadan’s iPhone (2): Yeah. 400 00:50:21.980 --> 00:50:22.730 yeah. 401 00:50:24.370 --> 00:50:25.050 thank you. 402 00:50:25.460 --> 00:50:28.150 vadan’s iPhone (2): Do you know the do you know the term for that, Louise? 403 00:50:28.420 --> 00:50:34.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I don't. I don't. But it. It feels completely in sync with what we've been talking about. 404 00:50:34.380 --> 00:50:35.940 vadan’s iPhone (2): Yeah. Oh, yeah. 405 00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:43.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And the other thing I'm noticing is that there's not just one way of engaging with it. 406 00:50:44.230 --> 00:50:49.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There are multiple ways of doing it. And in essence 407 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: they're similar. because they're heading towards the same thing. 408 00:50:54.350 --> 00:50:58.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: stepping into rising up into 409 00:50:58.210 --> 00:51:07.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: raising the pitch to something grander than what we're able to engage with, just with our limited personality. 410 00:51:09.600 --> 00:51:13.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's not the technique 411 00:51:14.390 --> 00:51:17.729 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's the doing of it in a way that works. 412 00:51:19.120 --> 00:51:20.389 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yes, please resign. 413 00:51:21.340 --> 00:51:45.060 Rissa Ratcliffe: Are you suggesting that seeing in in, in that enclosed vision where you can't see out is a negative, because because II don't know. I was trying to draw a positive from that sort of nest sort of idea as well as the panor, the the long shop panoramic thing, because 414 00:51:45.260 --> 00:52:02.740 Rissa Ratcliffe: sometimes when you can't see that far, for I got a a literal life situation where I literally can't see that far, and so to try and see that far is quite uncomfortable. So it's a anatic, or for that issue. So it's actually quite. 415 00:52:03.110 --> 00:52:17.019 Rissa Ratcliffe: It's quite comforting to know that there are these other perspectives, and I can be just in this sort of short place for that issue. And you know the great big vista for other things. So I don't know what you what you'll 416 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.710 Rissa Ratcliffe: advice absolutely. There's 417 00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:26.499 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one of the aspects of human personality is that we 418 00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:29.120 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: do comparisons. 419 00:52:29.890 --> 00:52:34.720 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that's that's the level of the the mind, the mental body 420 00:52:35.340 --> 00:52:39.049 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it understands by comparing one thing to another 421 00:52:39.660 --> 00:52:47.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it the same as, or is it different. Is it bigger? Is it smaller? Is it grander? Is it higher and good? Bad? 422 00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:51.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Positive negative is another one of those polarities. 423 00:52:51.970 --> 00:53:02.160 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and what I've come more and more into believing is really really true is that there are no absolute goods and bads. 424 00:53:02.910 --> 00:53:05.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's completely situational. 425 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.969 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's how it impacts us. 426 00:53:10.790 --> 00:53:15.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And if we're in a state where that 427 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:18.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: smaller contained 428 00:53:19.900 --> 00:53:21.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: situation 429 00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: begins to feel claustrophobic. 430 00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:32.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we're going to have a a so-called negative reaction to it. 431 00:53:33.930 --> 00:53:40.289 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: If we're feeling really vulnerable. then chances are it's going to be feel very protective. 432 00:53:41.490 --> 00:53:44.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it may be exactly the same situation. 433 00:53:47.890 --> 00:54:05.280 Rissa Ratcliffe: Does that make sense? Cause? I? It seems like. That's what you were saying. It does make sense, and it does, you know, and states of being. II just had a state of being where I thought, no way am I gonna make any plans for the next year? And then I had II 434 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:32.590 Rissa Ratcliffe: thought, you know, the next day I thought, no, I don't want to. I don't want to not make any plans. I want to live between now and when I, you know, don't know all these answers where I'm going to live, or whatever, and and it is so much to do with your own personal fire or motivation, you can. You can completely talk yourself into. And I know I'm not gonna do that. But you can. You can immediately think 435 00:54:32.750 --> 00:54:37.120 Rissa Ratcliffe: something can change. And you can say, I'm definitely going to do that. 436 00:54:37.450 --> 00:54:38.830 Rissa Ratcliffe: and 437 00:54:38.940 --> 00:54:45.780 Rissa Ratcliffe: I've quite enjoyed that. II quite enjoyed that metamorphosis recently, because I was 438 00:54:46.110 --> 00:54:53.879 Rissa Ratcliffe: wondering about what to how to fill my expanse of. I don't know what's going on time 439 00:54:53.940 --> 00:55:11.399 Rissa Ratcliffe: with where I'm living and what ha! What have you? And and I'm quite. I'm quite glad of the idea of just getting on with it, that that that the motivation has just come for just getting on with something and not just being in a limbo in the 440 00:55:11.560 --> 00:55:25.680 Rissa Ratcliffe: So yeah, so so I've just experienced a very sweet, very quick switch from one to another. And I could easily switch back again, you know, I just just don't know. I'm just. 441 00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:34.079 Rissa Ratcliffe: but it's just really interesting to hear all of these points of view, because I don't want to be stuck with one. 442 00:55:42.540 --> 00:55:44.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Thank you. 443 00:56:24.670 --> 00:56:27.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: One of the Hadiths 444 00:56:27.700 --> 00:56:29.999 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: sayings of Prophet Muhammad. 445 00:56:33.870 --> 00:56:39.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Alice says the heavens and the earth cannot contain me. 446 00:56:40.850 --> 00:56:44.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but the heart of the human being does contain it 447 00:56:48.940 --> 00:56:53.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: all of it. The totality 448 00:56:53.640 --> 00:56:58.429 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is reflected in our own essence inside. 449 00:56:58.940 --> 00:57:04.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and some small bit of that gets reflected into our personality structure 450 00:57:08.550 --> 00:57:14.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and on the level of on the metric level or level or wazifa level. 451 00:57:15.080 --> 00:57:25.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the Arabic word for contain. In both cases it's 2 slightly different grammatical versions of it. It's Wasiah 452 00:57:27.580 --> 00:57:29.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yawashi. 453 00:57:30.710 --> 00:57:32.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: which is that 454 00:57:33.210 --> 00:57:37.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that container that holds without constricting. 455 00:57:39.420 --> 00:57:41.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That's the nature of heart. 456 00:57:42.470 --> 00:57:48.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It can hold it can embrace. It doesn't constrict, it doesn't 457 00:57:49.170 --> 00:57:55.800 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: contract. That's why, like, I'm trying to think of the other words, it doesn't limit. It doesn't constrict. It doesn't restrain. 458 00:57:56.360 --> 00:58:02.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It holds in this lovely, open. nurturing 459 00:58:02.610 --> 00:58:04.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: loving way. 460 00:58:04.670 --> 00:58:14.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: protective way, and energetically, I'm feeling it's related to that space that I move into when I spend time with Rakib. 461 00:58:15.220 --> 00:58:15.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That 462 00:58:16.170 --> 00:58:21.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: loving awareness protected, watching over without a particular agenda. 463 00:58:22.250 --> 00:58:31.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's it's similar, qualitatively, a little different. But it's similar to that same type of loving enfoldment. It's not smothering. 464 00:58:32.500 --> 00:58:38.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it's not restricting choices and options and whatnot. 465 00:58:42.080 --> 00:58:43.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And with 466 00:58:44.050 --> 00:58:45.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: got it, the heart is 467 00:58:47.900 --> 00:58:52.519 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what a Mini river Mini Mini micro macro. There we are again. 468 00:58:53.120 --> 00:58:57.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The heart is doing exactly the same thing as the entire creation 469 00:58:57.940 --> 00:58:58.620 dead. 470 00:59:00.220 --> 00:59:06.819 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and our ability to creatively visualize is the same process 471 00:59:08.590 --> 00:59:20.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that Allah God got His source did to bring universe into manifestation. And we're doing it on a smaller scale when we go. Oh, yeah, wow! Whoa! 472 00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:24.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Whoa! I just had this flash. 473 00:59:25.310 --> 00:59:34.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and what comes out of it? A new piece of science, a great art of, you know, one of Mozart's symphonies. 474 00:59:34.950 --> 00:59:36.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It 475 00:59:36.540 --> 00:59:38.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: seems to come out of nothing. 476 00:59:42.570 --> 00:59:44.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we've got it all inside. 477 00:59:46.380 --> 00:59:53.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But the moment we get too focused on some detail. 478 00:59:54.690 --> 01:00:02.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we stop being able to feel our connection to that other place. or if we're in great pain. 479 01:00:02.230 --> 01:00:10.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it takes our awareness away from the larger picture. If we're in some kind of emotional conflict or turmoil 480 01:00:11.530 --> 01:00:13.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: stirring up the emotional body. 481 01:00:14.150 --> 01:00:19.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It drowns out that still, small voice 482 01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that subtle space. 483 01:00:22.030 --> 01:00:32.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And that's why the learning to watch the breath process starts with calming the breath down and letting it slow down and encouraging it to be more rhythmic and whatnot. 484 01:00:32.650 --> 01:00:40.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Just learn where that space is and where that space is in us, so that we know how to access it. 485 01:00:41.040 --> 01:00:56.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's not the only way to access it, but it's a nice, easy, step-wise way to come into this really refined place. so that we could be aware of what's been there all along. But we didn't hear it see it, perceive it whatever. 486 01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:58.120 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because we were 487 01:01:00.850 --> 01:01:05.489 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: not subtle enough, maybe not refined enough in the moment. 488 01:01:22.150 --> 01:01:25.619 Leslie: You say it's just the only way to get there. What are the other ways. 489 01:01:30.190 --> 01:01:35.319 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: You put me on the spot. 490 01:01:37.210 --> 01:01:41.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think 491 01:01:44.020 --> 01:01:54.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: anything that engages us in a way that puts us in deeper touch with our beingness. 492 01:01:55.980 --> 01:02:06.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and brings us closer to being able to be in the present moment rather than going over stuff that happened in the past, or maybe projecting into the future. 493 01:02:08.830 --> 01:02:16.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: see for me, seeing sometimes something in nature sometimes does, that 494 01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:18.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the amazingness 495 01:02:19.040 --> 01:02:21.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of the natural world? 496 01:02:22.830 --> 01:02:25.790 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: a line in a poem. 497 01:02:28.940 --> 01:02:33.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: passage of music or a tune. 498 01:02:35.080 --> 01:02:37.989 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Wow! Oh, I really like that. 499 01:02:38.410 --> 01:02:50.869 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So spiritual practice is an organized, formalized set of ways 500 01:02:51.140 --> 01:02:55.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that increase the possibility that we're going to move into that space. 501 01:02:56.550 --> 01:02:58.899 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but definitely not the only way to do it. 502 01:03:00.940 --> 01:03:13.069 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There was Ramdas told this story. I saw him twice in the early nineties. and he told this story. It was one of his talks 503 01:03:13.140 --> 01:03:14.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: years ago. 504 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:31.379 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And he was, you know, doing the same type of talk he did about waking up and being here now, and his his experiences with his Guru, and the other wonderful things that he, his articulation from in, was really really great for me. I really enjoyed how he put things. 505 01:03:31.680 --> 01:03:35.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he said that in this evening there was 506 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:48.299 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: an older woman, maybe somebody. S. Grandmother gray Hair, sitting in the front row. And as each point he was making. 507 01:03:48.550 --> 01:03:49.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: she's nodding. 508 01:03:49.940 --> 01:03:53.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: really getting it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 509 01:03:53.750 --> 01:04:12.839 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So at the end of the talk, you know, talk, standing, talking around with people, and he had felt this connection with her sort of whatever, and and he asked her if if you know what what was her spiritual practice or lineage? She was involved in. And are, you know, in the it's just. Oh, no, I knit 510 01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:19.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so knitting can do it. 511 01:04:24.970 --> 01:04:28.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The form and the format 512 01:04:30.700 --> 01:04:32.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: assist. 513 01:04:34.100 --> 01:04:38.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But they're not. What is that phrase in logic? 514 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:40.740 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Necessary. 515 01:04:41.700 --> 01:04:42.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: insufficient. 516 01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:46.150 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 517 01:04:49.070 --> 01:04:54.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the form is necessary, but it's not sufficient. Something else is going on. 518 01:04:56.300 --> 01:05:00.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And another way to look at it is the 519 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:08.669 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the steps of anything at all could be looked at as something to occupy the mind 520 01:05:09.680 --> 01:05:15.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to allow some other process to arise without being messed with by the mind by monkey mind. 521 01:05:22.620 --> 01:05:34.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And so part of this whole process is a variety of ways to get us to disengage from that 522 01:05:35.240 --> 01:05:37.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: concrete mental. 523 01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:40.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: academic type of 524 01:05:41.660 --> 01:05:44.740 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: either or comparison, thinking 525 01:05:45.270 --> 01:05:54.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: very valuable in certain contexts, but completely useless in other contexts. 526 01:05:55.300 --> 01:05:57.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: counterproductive. In fact. 527 01:05:57.780 --> 01:06:11.439 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if we're continually oh, is this bigger than that? Is that smaller and all that? That's got a red color there, and blue color here, and how blue is that blue, and how red is this rest? And that's that's one of the reasons why the the the 528 01:06:11.810 --> 01:06:16.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the Yogi liners call it monkey mind, because it's just like a little monkey jumping already 529 01:06:18.550 --> 01:06:22.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: useful for certain things. but not 530 01:06:22.680 --> 01:06:27.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: for what we're trying to to move towards, not for who we're trying to become. 531 01:06:29.030 --> 01:06:33.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we're not throwing it away. but just realizing where it's useful. 532 01:06:34.180 --> 01:06:38.459 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And how to disengage from it when it's not as useful. 533 01:06:52.450 --> 01:06:53.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Is there anyone else. 534 01:06:56.240 --> 01:06:59.430 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Nancy? Anything you want to say. and no pressure? 535 01:07:03.250 --> 01:07:09.410 Nancy: Actually, I don't have anything. Stan is love listening to you. Thank you. 536 01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I've I've been the type of person 537 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that always had something to say 538 01:07:17.500 --> 01:07:23.389 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or thought I did. And you know there's an aspect that that loves the sound of my own voice. 539 01:07:23.750 --> 01:07:35.149 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and with the growth I've had, I'd now have a space that is very happy. When I have nothing to say. III was like reading something that you know. 540 01:07:35.410 --> 01:07:45.560 Nancy: having that gift of articulation and eloquence, you know, is a divine thing. So I really am glad you all. 541 01:07:46.260 --> 01:07:47.010 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh. 542 01:07:51.810 --> 01:07:59.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: looking ahead just a bit. We've got one more session next month to 543 01:07:59.950 --> 01:08:03.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: recap and to look ahead. 544 01:08:05.230 --> 01:08:11.630 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And one of the things that Wally did in the 2,013 545 01:08:11.700 --> 01:08:12.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: class 546 01:08:13.640 --> 01:08:20.369 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: was, he asked people to consider sharing something. 547 01:08:22.950 --> 01:08:31.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: What practice really touched you? What experience did you have that you felt was very significant. just 548 01:08:31.859 --> 01:08:35.800 something that has come out of what we've done together for a year. 549 01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I made a compilation video. 550 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:49.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I picked and shows things from the one compilation of the days 551 01:08:49.529 --> 01:08:52.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: practices that Ali put together. 552 01:08:52.370 --> 01:08:58.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There are the morning, one and morning, 2 and afternoon, one and afternoon, 2 and evening. 553 01:08:58.890 --> 01:09:05.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think even there's only one, if you want to watch the whole thing. But there are big chunks in there where people are 554 01:09:06.060 --> 01:09:17.469 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: presenting, sharing what they sort of brought to the last class. Some people brought an experience. There's a poem that 555 01:09:19.330 --> 01:09:26.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Tony what's his name? Ollie? Said Ali Cotter. Olli on the prayer of the breath. 556 01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:33.820 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's a lovely poem. So that's in the resource section. You'll be able to see that 557 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:37.779 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I'm also. 558 01:09:38.290 --> 01:09:43.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I put all of the practices in a 4 column spreadsheet. 559 01:09:44.870 --> 01:09:50.159 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So lesson one through 4, and every time there's a new practice that's in red. 560 01:09:50.359 --> 01:10:00.519 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then it moves to black as it continues, and if there's any tweak or or variation on it that's in red again. So in one sheet of paper you can see all the practices at once. 561 01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:02.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 562 01:10:03.110 --> 01:10:07.839 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: over the weekend last weekend, I think, or the beginning of the week. 563 01:10:08.220 --> 01:10:19.289 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I went through the 4 sets of reading documents and put the titles of each of the sections with the page they're on, and that all fits onto one sheet. 564 01:10:19.410 --> 01:10:24.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So you've got all the reading there just to make it a bit easier to find things 565 01:10:24.220 --> 01:10:26.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if you're you're looking to find them. 566 01:10:26.820 --> 01:10:32.010 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I'm having this creative flow of other kinds of things that are going to. 567 01:10:32.080 --> 01:10:36.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we'll see how they unfold. 568 01:10:38.790 --> 01:10:43.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: You will have access to the videos 569 01:10:43.710 --> 01:10:49.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the pages where you got the course materials unending. As far as I know. 570 01:10:49.350 --> 01:10:55.449 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's there's a commitment to just continue to keep them hosted and available. 571 01:10:55.910 --> 01:10:59.249 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and of course. 572 01:11:00.830 --> 01:11:02.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one time, through 573 01:11:02.570 --> 01:11:07.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this art of what we done. There's no expectation that any one, any one's going to have mastery with it. 574 01:11:08.100 --> 01:11:10.690 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so. 575 01:11:11.620 --> 01:11:19.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and while he spends a fair amount of time talking about not trying to do too much. 576 01:11:20.270 --> 01:11:23.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we'll we'll get into that next time. 577 01:11:23.810 --> 01:11:28.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But to just look at what we're tuned to, and spend time with that. 578 01:11:28.620 --> 01:11:32.829 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: begin to listen to intuition, and then come back to other things. 579 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So is there. Is there any 580 01:11:38.530 --> 01:11:43.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the copious amount of 14 min we've got left. 581 01:11:44.190 --> 01:11:49.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: which can either be a very, very short amount of time, or all the time in the world, please, Nancy. 582 01:11:49.890 --> 01:11:55.389 Nancy: Oh, okay, so I I'm quite new to all this, but II I do have a question about. 583 01:11:55.430 --> 01:12:01.540 Nancy: you know, like, I love to walk around the house doing. Yeah, Raki, but I'm not counting. 584 01:12:01.730 --> 01:12:09.350 Nancy: Why is there this idea that I should be sitting with? Beads and counting whatever 585 01:12:12.140 --> 01:12:13.830 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there really isn't. 586 01:12:17.100 --> 01:12:17.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah 587 01:12:18.210 --> 01:12:25.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: for the the 588 01:12:25.940 --> 01:12:31.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: lineages that dove deeply into numerology. 589 01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:35.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There was significant 590 01:12:35.260 --> 01:12:39.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in certain numbers, and then certain numbers of repetitions. 591 01:12:40.010 --> 01:12:42.100 Nancy: Yeah, I mean, III get. 592 01:12:42.280 --> 01:12:47.949 Nancy: I find the 11 number fascinating, and the 33 and 99, and 593 01:12:48.200 --> 01:12:56.870 Nancy: and then Navi is every single line was 11 or every verse was 11 syllables rhymed, and 594 01:12:56.930 --> 01:13:02.440 Nancy: 4 6 volume. So it's like, Oh, there's something there like that's amazing. 595 01:13:02.450 --> 01:13:08.270 Nancy: But II I'm you know, to sit and do it with counting. 596 01:13:08.380 --> 01:13:12.479 Nancy: I just love, you know the freedom. 597 01:13:13.070 --> 01:13:24.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I, just looking at the couple of different retreats that Wali Ali designed for me. 598 01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:30.819 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Sometimes he did. Okay, do this for 20 min. 599 01:13:32.430 --> 01:13:33.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Do this for an hour. 600 01:13:34.340 --> 01:13:39.229 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and Saladin leads more towards that than numbers of repetitions 601 01:13:39.390 --> 01:13:44.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from the 2 Kilbots that he designed for me. And I see shaking her head. 602 01:13:45.070 --> 01:13:49.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: basically 603 01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:56.389 one of the ways to approach it is you want to spend long enough with it 604 01:13:56.590 --> 01:14:04.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to shift out of your ordinary state of consciousness. so that you become permeable 605 01:14:05.100 --> 01:14:08.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to what the practice you're doing has to offer. 606 01:14:11.860 --> 01:14:15.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and for some states of consciousness 607 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it might take a thousand one repetitions to get there. 608 01:14:22.230 --> 01:14:24.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Another one it might take 3 609 01:14:27.060 --> 01:14:32.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: have. Have I told the story of Merchant Sam's Zen training? 610 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:34.549 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I can't remember. 611 01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:45.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: His incent teacher was a man named Johan Senzaki. He was a contemporary of Dt. Suzuki. 612 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:51.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and Suzuki became very well known in the West. 613 01:14:51.950 --> 01:14:55.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Hardly anyone's heard of Sinzaki 614 01:14:56.040 --> 01:15:02.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the teacher that sent them both kind of said that, Suzuki, you go teach publicly. 615 01:15:03.440 --> 01:15:10.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And he said to Sinsoki. you can't teach until you understand how Americans relate to money. 616 01:15:13.770 --> 01:15:22.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Here's a colon for you. He had the same level of of realization as Suzuki. but 617 01:15:23.190 --> 01:15:26.420 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: he couldn't teach until he understood that. 618 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:35.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he worked as a houseboy for a wealthy family in Pacific Heights, in San Francisco. 619 01:15:35.700 --> 01:15:39.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he slept on a cot under the basement stairs. 620 01:15:43.540 --> 01:15:44.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But anyway. 621 01:15:46.110 --> 01:15:53.309 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the story is that when he started teaching he was teaching people how to sit in presents 622 01:15:53.780 --> 01:15:59.389 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and they would start. I don't know. Maybe the first session was 15 min, maybe was 5 min. 623 01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:05.379 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and when they got that, then he increased the time. So let's say, it was 15. Then they went to 30, 624 01:16:06.230 --> 01:16:11.999 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: then to 45 min, then to an hour, then to an hour and 15, an hour and a half, and finally to 2 h. 625 01:16:13.220 --> 01:16:16.720 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And they said, Okay, now that you can 626 01:16:17.090 --> 01:16:18.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that state you get to 627 01:16:19.320 --> 01:16:23.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in 2 h. Get to that same state in an hour and 45, 628 01:16:24.460 --> 01:16:26.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then in an hour and a half. 629 01:16:26.540 --> 01:16:35.430 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then in an hour, and then in half an hour, and then in 15 min, and then in 5 min, until finally, you can get there in a breath. 630 01:16:40.450 --> 01:16:41.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 631 01:16:41.860 --> 01:16:44.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one way of doing it not the only way. 632 01:16:47.850 --> 01:16:49.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 633 01:16:50.420 --> 01:16:57.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I liked beads, so I like to count on the beads that worked for me felt good. 634 01:16:57.560 --> 01:16:59.309 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And yeah. 635 01:17:01.070 --> 01:17:04.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I haven't used them in a long time. They're sitting here in the little 636 01:17:04.380 --> 01:17:06.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: little thing I've got beside me 637 01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:10.049 got a couple of different sets of these. Sometimes I use them. 638 01:17:11.020 --> 01:17:12.980 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: sometimes I count on my fingers 639 01:17:14.530 --> 01:17:20.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, the knuckles. 6, 7, 8, 9, 1011, 640 01:17:22.370 --> 01:17:34.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then I keep. There's the first 11, there's the second, 11, third, 11, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, 8, ninth. So when my fingers get to this position. Same position in both places. I know I've done 99, 641 01:17:42.430 --> 01:17:47.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and with do it for so many minutes I either have to set a timer or keep looking at the clock. 642 01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:57.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so it's much easier to know that once around a hundred one beads is generally about 5 min if I'm doing them quickly or 20 min, if it's if it's you know. 643 01:17:58.630 --> 01:18:00.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 644 01:18:01.620 --> 01:18:02.810 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: they're tools. 645 01:18:04.020 --> 01:18:06.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But great, great, great question! I'm I'm glad you asked. 646 01:18:12.730 --> 01:18:14.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yes, please. 647 01:18:15.480 --> 01:18:17.950 Subhana: Where are those 648 01:18:18.120 --> 01:18:21.950 Subhana: 2 new resources? You told us that you just put up? Where are they? 649 01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:29.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: If you go to the Goddess Breath page from the Rouhaniat website. 650 01:18:29.130 --> 01:18:34.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's under the classes. Menu at the main menu and God is rest. Is the second one 651 01:18:35.340 --> 01:18:41.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: scroll down the page a little bit, and you'll see. Lesson one lesson, 2. Lesson, 3. Lesson 4. Final recap. 652 01:18:42.730 --> 01:18:49.539 Subhana: that's where I just have been looking, and and I don't. 653 01:18:50.580 --> 01:18:52.929 Subhana: Is there something? This is final. Recap. 654 01:18:53.450 --> 01:18:59.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yes, in the line, right after lesson 4. Try refreshing that page. 655 01:19:01.350 --> 01:19:10.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I will also send out the link when we finish here to directly to the page and and the password. 656 01:19:10.270 --> 01:19:15.830 Subhana: because I'm not seeing a final recap. And 657 01:19:15.910 --> 01:19:24.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: okay, can anyone else check the page while we're here to see if you could see it. If if you can. I need to do something. 658 01:19:25.690 --> 01:19:34.890 Subhana: I'm I'm I'm GIB. 1, 2023, February 2023 to February 2024. Is that where it should be? 659 01:19:37.010 --> 01:19:43.029 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh, are you at the that? My my becoming clear website or the Rouhania website. 660 01:19:43.500 --> 01:19:46.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Okay, it's Rhania, or. 661 01:19:46.660 --> 01:19:56.800 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: okay. Sorry about that. Yeah, I'll also I'll put a folder there like we've had for lesson 1, 2, 3, and 4, so it'll be there as well. 662 01:20:10.190 --> 01:20:13.020 Subhana: What is the the password for the Rouhaniat? 663 01:20:16.210 --> 01:20:26.830 Subhana: For the Rouhaniat, or this final recap page? I'm I'm I went to the Sufi Rouhaniat page. for God is best programme. Course one, and it needs a password, and I don't. 664 01:20:29.700 --> 01:20:33.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Did you get there through the classes. Item. 665 01:20:33.140 --> 01:20:35.469 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: at the very top of the Rouhani out menu. 666 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:37.579 Subhana: I just went to Rouhani at 667 01:20:38.850 --> 01:20:41.140 Subhana: classes. Okay classes 668 01:20:41.550 --> 01:20:46.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and got his breath program as the second item on the classes. Menu. That's right. Okay. 669 01:20:47.300 --> 01:20:58.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: okay? And then slide down. And do you see less final? Recap? Yeah, yes, yes, which I will send as soon as we're done here. 670 01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:06.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. thank you for asking that question now, rather than than than entering into confusion by yourself. 671 01:21:08.890 --> 01:21:10.290 It's 672 01:21:11.490 --> 01:21:12.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's 673 01:21:14.750 --> 01:21:28.839 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's complex in terms of the organization and the fact that some of it's at my website and some of it's at Rouhaniat. And yeah. I've been holding it in the frame that it's complex like a Tibetan tanka. 674 01:21:29.650 --> 01:21:32.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Not like something negative. 675 01:21:32.750 --> 01:21:44.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yes, please. 676 01:21:45.950 --> 01:21:48.170 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: I'm gonna be in Mexico next month. 677 01:21:48.250 --> 01:21:56.839 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: and I don't know that I'm gonna be able to join you all, so I just wanted to say that I'm sorry that I will most likely miss the last one. 678 01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:04.900 Lakshmi Julie Lockhart: I don't know what we're doing on that day. But it kind of hits in the middle of the day. So if we have some activity. yeah, yeah. 679 01:22:10.030 --> 01:22:11.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Hmm. 680 01:22:18.210 --> 01:22:18.960 yeah. 681 01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:22.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm just metaphorically tasting 682 01:22:23.320 --> 01:22:24.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: everybody's 683 01:22:25.370 --> 01:22:29.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: offering of their breath and their their heart space. And 684 01:22:31.970 --> 01:22:32.980 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yum. 685 01:22:52.060 --> 01:22:53.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, like. 686 01:22:53.790 --> 01:23:01.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I don't think there's nothing, nothing, no impulse arising at the moment to say anything else. 687 01:23:14.540 --> 01:23:15.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so 688 01:23:16.820 --> 01:23:18.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is that it for today. 689 01:23:21.010 --> 01:23:22.879 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Thank you. As always. 690 01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:26.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's 691 01:23:27.590 --> 01:23:33.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it for me sitting here. It's an honor and a blessing to be traveling with you all. 692 01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:38.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So thank you. 693 01:23:41.050 --> 01:23:42.440 Subhana: Thank you, Louise. 694 01:23:43.250 --> 01:23:43.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: You're very.